Creating A Wealthy Identity with Shayla Locklear – Ep. 007

Creating A Wealthy Identity with Shayla Locklear – Ep. 007

Join me as I speak with Shayla Locklear, an expert in business development and wealth psychology, all about wealth vs. rich mindset and what it looks like to work with high-net worth individuals.  

Some of the topics covered:

1. Money Mindset Transformation & Identity Work:
   • Shayla underscores the imperative need to revolutionize your money mindset, a crucial aspect for marketing success.
2. Top-Down vs. Bottom-Up Marketing Impact:
   • Shayla introduces the concept of the top-down approach, highlighting the potential marketing impact of supporting high-profile individuals.
   • The conversation delves into the contrast between top-down and bottom-up marketing mentalities, dissecting their influence on personal and professional growth.
3. Crafting Marketing Strategies for High-Net-Worth Clientele:
   • Shayla shares her wealth of experiences in marketing to ultra high net worth individuals, revealing unique challenges and marketing opportunities in this niche.
   • The hosts discuss the paramount importance of authenticity and brand consistency, especially in high-profile marketing environments.
4. Humanizing Wealth in Marketing:
   • The conversation navigates the idea of humanizing superhuman individuals, breaking down stereotypes and exploring innovative marketing approaches.
   • Shayla sheds light on her unique marketing approach, making high-net-worth experiences relatable and accessible through authentic branding.
5. Strategic Money Mindset Marketing:

Shayla offers a sneak peek into her bespoke approach to shifting money mindsets, intertwining psychological insights with strategic marketing tactics.

Connect with Shayla

• www.theshaylalocklear.com 
• https://www.facebook.com/shayla.locklear

Conclusion:

• The episode concludes with a resounding message – money is more than just numbers; it’s a dynamic element that, when paired with strategic marketing and a transformative mindset, can lead to remarkable success.

TRANSCRIPT

hello, everyone. I am super giddy today because I have a guest on the show that I told her before we hit record that I’ve stalked her for almost a year. I read everything, every single thing she posts, every single one of your posts. And she is just a force to be reckoned with. I think you are just so amazing.

I’m so excited to have you on the show. So I’m going to let you introduce yourself and guys get ready. Because this episode is probably, I’m just gonna just go ahead and name, this is probably going to be the best episode on the show thus far. Because, what were we talking about today? It’s the best episode.

We are claiming it, we’re claiming it. So yes, if you could just do a quick introduction, tell people who you are, what you do. And then I just want you to get straight into… What are your thoughts around actually, how would you define wealth? That’ll be the very first question I ask you. Okay. Okay.

First of all, thank you so much for having me. My name is Shayla Locklear. I am a wealth psychologist and high performance coach, and I work with high net worth, also high net worth individuals. And we how do I say this? We work on the non financial challenges of success and money. And no, I’m not a financial advisor, but.

I’m not sure if you know this, but often you hear me talk about millions and billions of dollars. But it’s let’s go into the first question that you said. So what is well. And so what’s very interesting is most of the time people confuse wealth with money. And that’s not the truth because money is needed for wealth.

Yes. But it’s not the same thing. There are a lot of rich people in this world, which means they have a lot of money, but that doesn’t equal wealth. Like wealth is something that. I would say it’s like a multiplication. It’s extrapolated. It’s more than just the physical dollar signs. It’s an energy.

It’s a feeling. It’s assets. It’s it’s your health. It is your, the way that you think. It’s the way that you walk. It’s the way that you talk. It’s your family. It’s your relationships. So wealth is bigger than just the money side of it. It’s really an all encompassing way of living your life.

I love that. Yes. And that’s why I asked you that question. It’s really funny. I saw this years ago on a post and someone had asked the question, do you want to be rich? And everyone was like yes. And then they said, do you want to be wealthy? And they were all like yes.

And they were, I was like and then they asked, so what do you think the difference between wealthy and rich are? And it was funny because the comments were just. So over the top, but most people said yes to both rich and wealthy, but then when they asked to describe it, it was all these negative connotations with rich.

They’re like they don’t like they cheated their way to the top. So that like things like that came out, it was nuts. And I was like, Oh my God, this is so fascinating. And I know you talk a lot about wealth, particularly. That’s why I asked that question because. Your mindset on it is just so spot on and so different than what on mainstream, which is, so fascinating to me.

And so I wanted, I was, I told you guys, or I told her guys before I jumped on, I was like reading her Facebook posts and writing down quotes. And one of the things that you said in terms of wealth is you said you get rich by managing reality. You get wealthy by managing assets and equity. So I’d love to talk a little bit more about that because in my mind, and you can totally tell me if I’m thinking about this in a not linear way, but in my mind, you sometimes have to get to rich first before you can get to wealthy.

Most definitely. No, I agree. Because we see this all the time. There’s a lot of rich people online, but they’re not wealthy. And because rich, to me, in my opinion, is about the dollars, right? So you can see the Lambos, you can see the people going on vacations, you can see all of these things.

And that is like, What people think wealth is or like mainstream wealth, like when we talk about wealth, people are thinking about the Bugattis and the this and the that. That’s just rich. There’s a lot of people can be rich, right? But not everybody can be wealthy. That’s what I truly believe. So when we talk about wealth, I talk about not only just The inner part of that, which is your mind, your body, your spirit, your energetic, but it’s also, when we talk about managing like assets and stuff like that, it’s about your money, making money.

It’s about you expanding your capacity to receive and expanding your being in this lifetime. So when you like riches, like you can pass along money, but what does that even mean? Okay you think about. Leaving a legacy, right? But a legacy isn’t necessarily tied to a dollar sign because your family and your friends, right?

You can leave money, right? We all want to, we say we want generational wealth, right? But a lot of people are talking about generational money. They’re not really talking about generational wealth because you can leave money. But really, what does that do for your family? Or for your memory, or for your legacy, because once it’s gone, what happens?

Do they forget about you? Probably. Do they not even care? Probably. So when you think about generational wealth, when you think about managing the assets and equity, things of that sort, these are things that will help you create a lasting legacy where you’re going to be remembered beyond your dollars. Oh, I love that.

I think that generate generational wealth is such a buzzword today. And I just love how you describe that. Because yeah, even in my mind, the generational wealth is yeah, it’s leaving money for the family. But you’re like, no, it’s what’s beyond that? I love that. See, here you are shifting my thoughts already, too.

We all want money, right? Yeah, we all want money. Okay grandma leaves you a million, you spend it, and after that, you’re like… What do you do with it? Yeah. Who? Yeah, oh, I love that. Where do you think, this might be a loaded question, but where do you think the line is? What do you see the shift between someone who has the capability of someone who’s rich but has the capability to be wealthy?

What is that, that line that they maybe have to cross over or that kind of one shift that they need? What do you think that is? A lot of times it is the… Not only a desire to be wealthy, but dealing with the uncomfortable notion of what it, what rich brings to the table because a lot of people are uncomfortable with money, right?

Although there’s a lot of rich people and you see this online a lot where people are very Open online. They will show you everything. They will show the screenshots. They’ll talk about money all day long. But if you get in person with them, it’s a very different story. Yeah. And so you’re like expecting something else.

And now here’s the other thing. Let’s just understand. Online, we have, in theater, they call it the, or in TV, they call it the fourth wall, right? So we have to be able to like project online. So I get it. Like we all have a little bit extra online so that people can feel, but even yet and still in person, it shouldn’t be completely.

Off kilter, right? And I’ve heard so many people and actually some clients who are actually we’re working through this right now who are uncomfortable with their wealth in like the 3D online. It’s okay. They can talk about it. They can speak about it. They can show it. They’re not afraid of it. But in person, it’s this uncomfortability with not just the money, but with what people think about their money.

So they’re like, almost shied away. There has to be this comfortability with money in regards to wealth, and also the line is being able to allow your money to make money. I always say from, especially online, it’s like when you put your big girl panties on and you realize, Oh, I’m a real fucking business.

Okay. Cause your family is like, Oh, how’s that little internet thing going? And you’re like, dude, I just bought your house. What are you talking about? Like that little internet thing. Okay. So you have to really start to see who you are and what your money can do and how to utilize that versus like how to spend like rich is very spendy.

So we’re like spend. We can, I can show you, but wealth. I can just make more. Yeah. And that’s okay. But wealth is really a bigger understanding of the responsibility of your money, allowing your money to make money, getting yourself beyond just the. The make it, the earn it, spend it, earn it, spend it, earn it, spend it type of thing into what do I actually want to do with my money?

What changes can I make in my world or the world with my money? What can I, how can I re how can I utilize the resources that I’ve been given to really make a big impact? in the world or my world. So riches is the money like, but wealth is once again, beyond the money. What’s the next step.

And that is wealth. So riches is money. Okay cool. But wealth is beyond money. I love that. I also love that you said in my world, because I think, for me personally, growing up money, didn’t feel like I don’t want to say this. I didn’t feel like I deserved money. If you had money, you were selfish.

Basically, that was the narrative for me growing up, is that… Like you, when you have money, you’re selfish, like you, you’re greedy almost, and so it’s funny. I’m speaking on astrology. I love astrology. I have a Capricorn stellium. Okay. I love money. And I have Scorpio in my second house of money.

So I’m a little secretive with money. So it’s interesting, even when you were just talking, it was like, I’m the opposite. I don’t like to talk about money online, but in person all day, every day, I will talk with my friends like, yep, I made 30, 000. Like it doesn’t even bother me one bit, but like online, I’m a little yeah.

So I’m the opposite, which is funny, my Capricorn stellium, it is more of a I think like the online world for a couple years was all like how can you make an impact with the world? I give back to the world. And I’m like, I first want to provide for me. How can this benefit me?

And then we can talk about, going out and doing things. But I always felt bad for having that thought. And I remember like my friend who, when I first got into astrology and he read my chart, he was like, no, like you’re a Capricorn. No, he was like, that’s how they think they are more of.

How can this benefit me? And then once they feel safe and they feel secure, then it’s like going out. And I just love that you said that like my world, because I don’t think that a lot of people have that mentality. It’s more of a, like what it’s almost this like guilt trip, almost of you, what are you going to do with that money?

If you have it, like you have to give it all the way, like type thing. And I’m like, no, I want to. Reserve. It was interesting. I I loved a thrift shop. I don’t care how much money, I don’t care if I’m a billionaire. I will always go to thrift shops. I love finding a good deal. I just love it.

It just, it’s like the thrill of the hunt for me. And I remember I was in there and I had this little ping of like guilt. Cause I was like, I’m like buying these. These things when like other people probably really need them. And then I like immediately shifted. I was like, no, you have the money you have because you’re smart with your money and you could spend 300 on this sweater new, or you can pay 20 in this store and it’d be, just the.

But just as nice to wear it and it was interesting I had that like shift in that shift in mindset Just right then and there of no That’s why I have the money that I have because I’m smart with it and I’m not like just willy nilly spending it So anyways, it’s just Such a good topic.

And again, just so glad that you said like your world, because I think that’s just right. No, I had a client who was like Sheila, is it okay? If I don’t want to save the world I just want to like, do this for my family. I’m like, save my world. Of course. And they’re like, but everybody talks about this big picture, and that’s when I started actually talking about this more because I’m like, and I say it a lot in my writing or my content is like either your world or the world, because both of them are important.

And I always feel that you should fill your cup up first. And a lot of people, especially new age, whether you believe in the Bible, God, universe, angels, Palladians, whatever, they’re like, Oh, this whole attitude of gratitude you give first. So you give what you don’t have and you’ll be, you will be blessed.

And I’m like, where is it? Or anywhere else did that say, unless I agree with that when there’s like a overarching or overwhelming, like knowing where God angels, universal, your higher power says, Hey, yo, do this. Okay, cool. But other than that. No, everything that we’re talking about here, you have to be okay first.

Because what happens is you’re giving, they say give from a, I forgot what spirit was like a giving spirit or whatever else you can’t do that if you yourself don’t have it. So then you’re giving right from this, like your resentful spirit, because you’re like, I don’t have this, but I’m supposed to do this in order to be right.

And then something doesn’t happen, right? The manifestation doesn’t come and then you’re mad at God or universe or whatever. Cause you’re like you told me to do this and I did this. And they’re like no, they never told you to give what you didn’t have yet. That’s never what was the case. So I think we’ve got so many interesting thought processes around all of this and giving and doing this, but I’m an advocate of do you first.

And if that’s all that you can do or if that’s enough, or if you don’t have an overarching world impact that you want to have, know that you’re, you being in your world, Beautifying your world. You doing you is actually the most beneficial thing you can do to impact this world. Yeah. Oh, I love that.

I, I just had a conversation with someone the other day about reciprocity. And it was interesting because we were talking about it in terms of like business and For me personally, I was like saying how we were talking about aura colors and he was like, your soul skin color is blue and he was like, I love the blues.

And I was like, Oh, I love it. And he was saying, he’s but the thing about blues is. You need reciprocity, and he said, and the thing is that you tend to overgive, hoping to get it back, and he’s but that is the opposite of what you should be doing, and he was like, people have to give to you first, and then when you feel so loved and abundant, you then can go overgive, and you can have that reciprocity, and it was such a unique shift to me, because I didn’t grow up, I didn’t grow up a Christian, I didn’t grow up Any religion actually.

But I became a Christian for a little while and then now I’m just like, I’m way more spiritual than I am. Yeah, me too. Organized religion. But anyways, it was interesting ’cause I’m like, wow, that has been a topic I’ve seen throughout my entire life, is that you need to have a servants and you need to show up and overserve.

I even see this online. I see this online with like marketing and I can’t tell you how many, as a marketing and messaging. Strategist, how many of my clients come to me and they like, I just feel like I am giving and giving and giving and giving and no one is buying or no one is like giving it back to me and I’m like, because you’re giving with an agenda that’s not actually serving like serving is like giving without having anything in return.

And so I hate that I think I don’t even know who it is, who is the coach, maybe some coach who says I can’t think of who it is, but he’s saying how like selling is serving and I’m like, no, I don’t agree with that. I don’t agree that selling is serving because then you are showing up with an agenda of if I just over give to these people, then they’re going to eventually buy from me, but then you feel resentful and depleted when they don’t.

And I’m like, no, like that’s not. So anyways, I always I shifted that a little bit of saying that like selling is just sharing. It’s just being so over the top about, passionate about what you’re doing and just wanting to talk about it all the time and sharing it. And when I had that mindset of I don’t care, I just want to talk about this forever.

Especially I’m not an astrologist by any means, but I became obsessed with it when I learned about it. Because I’m like, oh my god, this is fascinating. And I talk about it all the time and I can’t tell you how many people I’m like, I will pay you to read my chart, pay my, like here throwing money at me, like my chart, tell me.

And I’m like, this is so funny, but I had like never had any intentions of selling. It was just, I want to share about this because I love it. And so I love this topic because. I think that there are a lot of things that we have grown up with in a society that is usually backwards, especially when you become an entrepreneur, you’re trying to do the same things.

And it’s wait, this is not like I’m tracking my husband caught my husband. It’s I’m not tracking. I picked it up from him and it feels weird to say it, but yeah, I feel like there’s a lot of things that it’s not on the same, playing field. So I know for you particularly, you work with very wealthy I think it’s ultra high net worth, right?

Okay, I said it correctly. That is a tongue twister for me. I don’t know why. Every time I see you post it, I try to say it out loud. I’m like, Ultra high net worth, but I don’t know why I have to do it. So I would love to know, I’d love to like peek behind the scenes of people at that level. Like maybe what are some of the main kind of money blocks that you have to talk with them on or coach them on or overcome?

I’d love to know and if they are similar to people who have less money.

It’s very interesting because as we spoke about a little bit before we started recording, you’re like, a lot of people have very similar problems that just at like different levels. As someone who you would say would be, I might say poor, but has lost money, mid level money, lots of money.

And so one of my favorite phrases is like money only solves money problems, right? So really when we think about. The challenges that we have as individuals. They’re very similar. It’s just that you’re put in different environments and how you deal with them or not deal with them is different. So when we think about money challenges, there’s a lot that can happen, especially with High net worth, ultra high net worth individuals.

We can look at people who came from money, right? So if you came from money, if you grew up with money and it was there, but it wasn’t a conversation, then you don’t really understand it, right? You know that you maybe have a trust fund. You know that, grandpa or grandma worked really hard and now we’re, rising generation, next generation.

We’ve got all of this money. You went to the best schools, the best experiences, and now you’re trying to figure out, like, how do I even balance a checkbook? Like what is money? What is this? I know I’m different than the world, right? And I know that people look at me very differently and they, but I don’t even know who I am outside of.

My family’s last name, and this identity that I was given, and I was told to, that this is the way that we are, right? Not the way this is who I am, this is the way that we are, as a family, because we have a name and a reputation to uphold. And so there’s so when we talk about wealth psychology and like success and things of that sort, like there’s so much depth in that people like what else can you talk about?

Seriously? I’m like, yeah of course, it’s great when are sitting on 100 million, but like the identity work of that, of Hey, I don’t know who I am. Hey, I’m defined by this money in this last name, but I’m coming to realize that’s not necessarily what I agree with, and my family’s not allowing me to express that I don’t even know what it is or how to express that, I just know that I should feel grateful that I’m here, and I’m, I’ve got all of this wealth.

But I don’t. And that makes me feel guilty. And how do I deal with that? And so there’s that. There’s people who are now coming into wealth, right? Who maybe didn’t grow up wealthy, but they Had a business something like that a liquidity event which allowed them to have large sums of money and now it’s okay there’s so many different avenues with that.

Maybe you are the wealth creator, right? You had a liquidity event and now you have once again, you’re sitting on two three hundred million dollars more than you ever seen in your life but Once again, we go back to what do I even do with all of this money, but the identity. So it was like, if you’ve worked every single day of your life, in a sense, to build this business to which now you sold a part of yourself, and now you don’t know who you are.

And so it’s okay, and Your friends and your family and everybody’s looking at you differently now because of this dollar sign and so you are on a boat by yourself basically and out to sea with a lot of money, but no one’s helping you like everyone’s looking at you weird or it’s even the fact that like the uncomfortability, especially if you once again if you’re If you didn’t grow up with money and now you’re you haven’t, it’s very uncomfortable to know what to do with.

It’s, you’re going to your financial advisor and you feel stupid because they’re telling you all of these things. You have no clue what it means, but you’re just shaking your head. You don’t want to sound stupid, right? You don’t want to be like, I don’t know. So you’re just like yeah, huh, absolutely.

When the truth is you have no clue what’s going on with your money. Nothing. You know what to do. You also don’t want to get things wrong, especially high performers in general. We love really getting things right. We’re perfectionists in a sort. So when you have a high performer who’s also wealthy and who just came into money and you’re like, I don’t know what to do, but I don’t, I’m not comfortable telling people that it’s shame.

It’s a lot of shame. It’s a lot of hiding. It’s a lot of even when it comes to philanthropy, it’s like, what do, how do I give? And you’re like, what do you mean? How do you get, how do I get, how do I I don’t want to do this wrong. I don’t know how to, I don’t know how to manage this. Do I just look up something?

Do I just, what do I do? Do I just go to a, The red cross. What do I do? Yeah. So there’s so many different avenues of challenges that, that wealthy individuals have that the same in the same breath, if you think about people who maybe don’t have as much money, it’s the same but different.

So the uncomfortability with money comes with, okay, I don’t have it. Everybody’s told me it was wrong. I want it, right? Because we have to, we have it, we need it to live. But if we look at how society is showing money it’s a double edged sword. It’s yes, you want to get it all, but also you’re horrible.

Look at all the billionaires. Look at all the millionaires. They’re ruining the world and everything else. So now the uncomfortability with money is the fact that I don’t have it, but I want it, but the world tells me I shouldn’t want it, but also that I should. And so you see, we’re both uncomfortable.

It’s just a different level of things. If we look at philanthropy, I’d love to give, I don’t have it. I don’t have it to give. And even if I did have it to give I worked for it. I worked really hard for it. So why would I give this away to anybody, any beggar on the street or anybody else when I don’t know if it’s going to come back?

So once again, I don’t know how to do this right. I don’t know how to do this right because I’ve worked so hard and I also have issues with money. So I feel if I give it away, I’m never going to get it back. So it’s different, same, but different levels of what happens in each, each world in each room.

Yeah. And I think it. Those are so many great scenarios, by the way. I’m sitting here wow, I’ve never thought of that. I’ve never thought about that either, but even though where you’re like, I don’t know how I was like, wow, I have, that has never crossed my mind that a someone with a lot of money is I don’t know how to donate it.

I was like, I have never, ever thought about that, but that’s so true. I’m like thinking, I’m like, yep, I had, if someone just gave me two million dollars right now and said, go donate it, I’d be like, I don’t know how to do it, what do I do? I wouldn’t know how to do it either, but I, something I’ve never thought about such great scenarios.

And… I think it’s interesting because obviously, I only have my, my personal experience of life and money to go off of, but I’ve noticed that a lot of the same thoughts that I had when I grew up with really no money to you. Having money, not like ultra high network, but like having more than I never in a million years thought I would ever live in a two story house.

Like to me growing up a two story house was like, you have so much money. I never thought that. And I literally am in my beautiful two story house. And I’m like, by the water, like the home next to me sold for 2. 1 million. It’s I’m over here. I never thought I wouldn’t. I never thought I would be here like have this but It’s interesting because I think for me personally, a lot of those same thoughts that I had younger still come up.

Even with money and one in particular, like as you were talking with the scenarios we grew up right down the road from this very wealthy. He’s actually my law, my lawyer now, but he was Oh my God, he was a business lawyer. He’s freaking, he was a sharp, like I was best friends with his son and like they had 300 acres.

They lived in a 4 million home. Ian got for his 16th birthday, a Porsche, his very first car was a Porsche. So and I’m over here driving this like old van that my mom had, a lot of money, but I like loved being at their house. Cause I just was like, Oh my God, this is amazing.

But I remember in particular one time, my mom saying something about them and she was like, Oh yeah, them like they they have so much money, but you would never know it. You would never know they had so much money. They totally don’t want it they aren’t like regular rich people they’re actually nice.

And so in my mind, I was like, oh, you have to hide your money. Or people are gonna think negative. And but every, literally every time they were spoke about, my mom would say, oh yeah, oh my god, they have so much money, but you would never know it. You would never know it. So I didn’t remember that till years and years later when I started doing shadow work around money.

And that came up during a hypnosis session and I’m like, Oh my God, I totally remember all of this. And so for me it implanted this where you have to hide your money. Like you have to hide, you can’t talk about it, you can’t flaunt it, like you can’t show it. Then me over here with my Capricorn, all my Capricorn energy is what was it like? I wanna be driving my nice car, and people look at me like, oh my God. Because to me it’s I’ve worked really hard for this and yeah I’ve wanted this and now I have it and I want to enjoy it. And it’s just so interesting because it’s something that still comes up. Like I still fight that all the time of oh I shouldn’t tell.

I, I should hide this. Like I should hide this. Like I shouldn’t tell people. And it’s coming up for that. And then one other thing is I once had a client too that, eight figures making eight figures, but behind the scenes, I was behind the scenes of the business and barely scraping by, like barely paying payroll, like all of that.

And I remember talking to him about it and he had this thought of you said, that’s just who we are. And he said that like I’m growing up his dad. I won’t say his last name, but we’ll just say the last name is Jones. And he was like, or that’s a hard one to say.

We’ll say banks. He said, banks don’t get ahead. They just get by and he said, his dad said that growing up his entire life is like, Oh, yeah, the banks just we don’t get ahead. We just get by. So he was making eight figures and still just getting by and it was just this implanted in him. And it was something that came up every single time.

And even. Again, I don’t really do financials or money mindset, coaching, anything like that. I do messaging and marketing, but even in his marketing, it was like, just barely getting by. He’s Oh, just do the bare minimum. Just, we just need people. We just need clients this month. Just do the bare minimum instead of like setting up systems and structures and actually like honing in on your messaging and making it work for you.

And all these things. And it was just so fascinating because when you said that example, it reminded me of that where it’s yeah, it’s just who we are. And yeah, and of course, yeah, he grew up with, he grew up not having a lot of money, obviously but even when you’re talking about yeah, they had a lot of money, you had a trust fund, but you had a name to uphold, that’s just who we are.

It’s like the same in both scenarios. It’s just fascinating to me. It’s so fascinating. I think it’s interesting to, to also like, Because we’re not a monolith. So I know that you talk about astrology a lot in different ways of being. And I think it is important to like, look at those things for you.

If it’s astrology, if it’s HD, if it’s whatever it is to see how you are coded. That doesn’t mean to me I think not the end all be all. Because they’re like, Oh, this is not a death sentence, but I have to be this way. No, it’s just a knowing like, okay, how you were created.

What this works for you. And so for me, like looking at even money stuff and the way that I do things and even the way that I run my business, it’s I’m a. For six and HD. So when I look at and I’m a sacred generator. So when you look at that, right, when you look at that in regards to money and things of that sort, and even the way that I market and get clients or have clients come to me.

It’s I am a connector, that’s the four, right? Relationships and everything else, and that’s who buys from me. So I’m a, I’m the person that everybody like, I’m the connector. I’m the absolute connector. I know this person, that person, blah, blah, blah. Everybody knows me. This is that’s how my world works.

But then the sick side of it, which is the, like the matriarch or of sorts or whatever you want to call it. We’re like this regal being that just goes in the world and does what we want and people flock to you. And I’m a connector that also doesn’t follow the rules, who just does what she does, who…

And this comes to money too, I just people think it’s so easy for me because they’re like, Oh, people just come to you. People, or people always roll out the red carpet for you, which is absolutely true. Love it. And I used to thought, I used to think it was like a problem. I’m like, Oh my God is this an issue?

And even friendships and people are like, you just have this air about you that like, no, it’s not the that’s a whole nother story, but like the better, like people think like you’re better than everybody and no, I don’t think that’s the projection. And maybe that’s what it seems like, because people do come to me, people, this I just go and it is.

And so understanding those types of things will help you understand like how money works in your world. We thought about your world. And then if you’re a flaunter, okay, flaunt it. If you’re somebody who doesn’t flaunt so much. Okay, cool. And that’s why I’m like, none of this is wrong. It just has to, you have to look at how your, it works for you.

Some families like. The eight figure guy who’s Oh no, we don’t, we don’t talk about it. We’re always just getting by. Yeah. And I’ve seen that people who are making lots of money, but it doesn’t really matter if we both end up at zero at the, at the beginning of the month, you, I can make 10, 000 and you can make a hundred, 200, 500, 000.

And if you’re back at zero, just like me. We’re the same. And that’s the mindset part of this whole money thing. We’re just getting by, we’re just getting by. You wonder why you’re just getting by at eight figures. It makes no sense. You shouldn’t just be getting by. But it also depends on business overhead.

There’s a lot in there. But this is just general. So you do have to look at those things in regards to your riches in regards to your wealth, how you are coded, how you were, how the stars aligned when you were born and utilize that to support you in your business, in your life, in your money, in your riches, in your wealth.

It’s not a death sentence. It’s something that, that really helps you and is going to help money come to you. In the way that it’s like the smoother pathway. So for me I used to, I’m not gonna say I used to chase, but I was very like go do be, are like, if you know me from eight years ago, especially online, like I was just boom.

And that’s not a bad thing, but it wasn’t something that I could sustain. Like I just, I don’t know. I remember one day, clearly it was new year’s day and I was just done. I was like, Oh my God. And I thought it was a failure. I was like, what is happening? I can’t do this anymore. I can’t keep doing blah, blah, blah.

And so that’s when HD and all these things start to come into my life. When I realized, Oh, I’m working way too hard. My natural essence or a being is like. The silver platter, the gold platter. It comes to me, I decide yes or no. That’s not true for everybody, but for me, it is. So that’s, so that’s how even business wise, right?

Even with clients, like a lot of my, yes, do I still If I want to or whatever else, absolutely. But a lot of it is referral. A lot of it is conversation. A lot of it is intrigue. A lot of it is they find me, they watch me, they hire me for six figures. A lot of it. So you have to utilize those things to help you in your money and in your wealth.

And understanding that all of those nuances that we talk about, those belief systems, like it’s not true because it’s true. It’s true because you believe it. Yes. Yes. I love that you said that too, because it’s funny when I came into astrology, the very first person who read my chart was like, I’m not going to tell you that you have any hard aspects because I don’t believe that there’s anything negative on this page.

And he’s and a lot of people will tell you that. And he was like, but if you come forth any type of, astrology, human design, anything with this. This thought of, Oh, this is going to be really hard for me. You’re like, Oh, this is a negative. He’s you’re going to fall into that.

And he’s nothing is a negative. When I see this, it’s just it is more of, okay, you have this aspect. This just means that you might have a little more spice to you. That’s what he said. He said, you might have a little more spice to you when it comes to this. And I was like, okay, I like spicy. That’s fine.

And it’s interesting because that is how I look at it. I look at it too, but I laugh because yeah, I love it and it’s so interesting, but then I also am like, but I also have free will. So I can totally do this if I want to do it. And, whatever I have choices. I can make choices. But I totally could tell you were a six line.

I could see that right off the bat. I know, and with the hair and with the hair too I don’t know what it is about six lines, but you guys always have like most like luscious, like gorgeous hair. I don’t know what it is. It’s the observation that I’ve had, like literally every person that has a six line, they, And They’re the, they’re the role models.

You guys just unapologetically do you, which is so refreshing. I’m a 1 3. So while you guys are out there being you, I’m behind the scenes digging into all the details and then experimenting with it. And I’m like, okay, let me just tell you guys, this is what worked for me. This is not what worked for me.

I’m just going to be over here doing some more experiments and letting all you guys know. I know. Yeah. I get it. I think. Even when you were talking about you were go BBB. I think a lot of people resonate with that. I saw that for a while for quite some time. A lot, especially women, obviously cause we were trying to operate like men and especially the generators because we do have the energy to go, but we also have to have time to step back and also receive.

I think. That’s something I think you mentioned that way earlier in the beginning is like having the capacity to receive and I think that a lot of people think that in business or with money you have to constantly be doing and doing and giving and all of that. But you don’t actually have time to just sit back and receive and enjoy.

And we talked about that with the client that I was just talking about. It was like you’re barely getting by because you just keep thinking that you have to keep doing more to get, but you actually have no idea how to receive money, like you know how to make money, but you have no idea how to enjoy it or receive it.

And that was like a. That was a big lesson for me because, again, growing up with no money and then all of a sudden getting it, I’m like, oh god, what am I supposed to do with this? This feels uncomfortable. Spin it, get rid of it all this stuff. And it was a lot of, yeah, a lot of shadow work around what does it look like to actually receive and that was the When I talked about reciprocity earlier, that was something too, where it was like, oh no, I don’t get unless I give.

And it’s like, why can’t people give to you first? Yeah. It feels so much better when people give to you first. And it’s such a backwards thing in society. I’m sure you see it. I’m sure you see it all the time. It’s very interesting when we talk about reciprocity and wealth and all of those things because one of the, like how I am is, and a lot of my, I would say my business development clients, so my business development clients are the ones who, Like I’m helping them and supporting them in creating a luxury side of their business or helping them to expand that side of their business where they’re able to work with high net worth, ultra high net worth individuals.

And then there is me just strictly, mentoring and coaching ultra high net worth individuals and their families. So I have a, two sides of my business here, but especially with the business development side, when we talk about these types of things, it’s very interesting because people Most of the time I attract people who are givers, and I’m a giver.

I’m, and I learned this very often like I over give like I, I’m a giver, because I’m somebody who also like when I think about, let’s say like food pantries and stuff like that I used to get so mad because I’m like who the fuck wants to eat peanut butter and off brand peanut butter at that and jelly all the time like I’m not going to give something that I wouldn’t want people want fresh food people want this people want you think that people who are down and out you know want to just you they tell you to be grateful that you can get this and I’m like how dare we give them scraps these are individuals walls.

Don’t do that. So I don’t give anything I wouldn’t want and so I’m like, I’m going to give what I’m going to give this. And now, yes, I know not everything, you can’t always give meat or this or that because they don’t have the capacity to hold it. Like they don’t have the cold and everything else.

But most of the time I’m that person. I’m like, I’m not going to give shit. I’m going to give like something that I would absolutely want because at the end of the day, especially if someone’s down in the lock, the last thing you need is somebody basically kicking you while you’re down and being like, you should be thankful for that.

Like never. So when you think about Giving right or like the way that you are. I’m such a giver. Then when I look at my business strategy or look at how I do business, there’s no way that I can charge the smaller or lower level prices. It just wouldn’t work. And first of all, I don’t feel filled up by it.

And secondly, I always and this is not like trying to do or be who I am. Naturally is a giver. I over give. I’m Always over the top. So at the end of the day, you’re always going to get whatever I promised times a hundred, because that’s just who I am. But I also have to make sure that in exchange, I feel it’s reciprocal or well received.

So people do this. And we talked about like how people do it on the other side where they’re like I’m going to give. And I’m going to do this or I’m going to charge this price for my program because like it’s going to make people feel better or it’s like whatever but in expectation that like this happens and then you get people who are taking advantage of you or you’re doing more than you need to and not feeling fulfilled because it’s an unequal exchange.

And so I talk about this, especially when my clients are raising their prices. It’s not just about raising your price for the sake of raising your price, which people say all the time Oh, just raise your price. It’s about the value of the transformation that you’re able to provide. And when you look at the primary Radiant Ripper results of the work that you do with your clients and the lifelong longevity of that.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You have to understand that in order to be able to charge that and also knowing if you’re a giver like me, then you have to be able to pack that in to the price where you feel good about this. And it’s not going to be this like resentment because something A, B, C, D, E, F, or G happens.

I always say charge enough To be able to offer or to be able to give a beautiful experience. And so I think that’s something that’s really important, especially on the internet side of things or the business side of things. When we’re looking at, I want to work with high net worth people, or I want to make more money or things of that sort well.

Are you charging enough to give the type of experience that would warrant that? And what are the primary radiant and ripple results of what you got, what the work that you’re doing? And I think that helps people a lot in regards to seeing Oh my gosh, I’m so undercharging because my work is absolutely changing lives.

And this is not like an ego thing. It’s a truth thing. And I deserve to be. To be compensated well for that. And when you’re able to do that, then some of this stuff goes away. Like we’re not, we’re, all these challenges with money, all the other stuff, it really goes away when you start to value and see the power of your work.

And actually honoring it. And then you’re like, Oh, this is how the world works. Okay. Versus the give give. I have to charge this. Not everybody can afford this. Oh my gosh. I have to, 20 here. 9. 99 here. Whatever. 11. 11. This is the program, right? I’ll be, I have to overgive. I have to overgive because they’ll come back.

This and that. No. You teach people how to treat you and we don’t treat each other cheaply. It’s funny that you say that because I was part of a mastermind several years ago. And the now being out of that mastermind, I’m like, Oh, that was cultish. And that was their whole persona was just keep giving, because they’ll owe you.

He literally said that he said, they will feel like they owe you. And I was like, I don’t want anyone to feel like they owe me. No, absolutely not. Yeah. I just think that, yeah, that whole what you’re everything you’re just talking about makes so much sense and I love the way that you talked about that with high prices because I think that you’re, your thoughts or your energy has to be behind it, but you can’t recognize your energy if you don’t.

I love that you said that. It was such a good topic. I know we’re right at the hour, so I hate, I’m over here I hate, I could talk forever. I know, there’s so much more to talk about, but it’s okay. So much more, I love it. Is there anything that you would like to leave? I love to just leave this last question with my guests.

If there’s anything you can maybe tattoo on someone’s soul, on their heart something that maybe you think they need to hear today. It can be anything. It doesn’t have to be about money, anything we talked about today. What would that be? One of the biggest things I think that people really need to understand and own and is not only that we all deserve to be wealthy and not just rich because we have a lot of rich people.

I, we all deserve to be wealthy, but also that If you being well resourced is of high service to the world, and if you are only like focus on your world, it’s of high service to your world and the world. And one of the things that. I had to battle initially when people, when I first came out, like I see I’m going to say secretly, but I was doing this for a while before I openly talked about working with, primarily high net worth, ultra high net worth individuals.

I grew into it. It was my background was perfect for this. And that we’ll talk about that later, but it all worked out. And one of the things people would tell me, or they’ll be like what qualifies you why you how dare you almost just shit on everybody else oh, because they can’t afford you or anything else.

And one of the reasons, and also how I am created, but one of the reasons why this works so well for me is because I don’t believe in starting from the bottom or I don’t believe in That methodology where everybody’s you should start at the bottom and you like, everybody’s helping everybody push everybody up, and life is great.

And I’m like, yeah, maybe you guys are great at that, but that’s not my shit. One thing that I’ve seen and one thing that I trust and I know, and it’s worked for me and worked for hundreds of my clients as well is When you support and help the people at the top, we have access to more resources than you ever understand.

And when you can start and help and support individuals at the top, that opens up the door for giving, that opens up the door for all of the rest of this to trickle down and pull everybody up so much faster than starting at the bottom or working from the bottom. Up to try to push everybody up with little to no, no resources or ability when you are able to work with and affect positively affect and support the individuals who are at the top, then the world is benefited from that because they’re their resources and their support and their access and their crew and their relationships are All of that is better because of the support that you are able to help them with or to give them.

And because of that, all of that goodness trickles down and everybody gets better because of it. And so I think the top down for me is so much better than the bottom up. Now there’s some people who are really good at bottom up. I’m not one of them, but I’m amazing at being able to support people who are at the top, the richest, the wealthiest, the most well known, unknown individuals, celebrities, all of those individuals who have impact, who have access, who are able to move the needle quicker than anybody else.

Down, down here and it’s not saying one is better than the other. It’s just saying, where do you want to be? I want to be at the top and helping the individuals at the top. And that’s why I’m there. And if that’s you.

Don’t be ashamed of it. Know that your work, whether it’s top, middle, bottom, whatever you want to think is powerful, but for those of you who want to start at the top, support the top and help them just know that the impact that you’re able to have is a hundred times bigger, better, faster, bolder, more amazing than those who are pushing up from the bottom.

I absolutely love that. The image that was coming to my mind was like, imagine someone who has. Has literally the lifeboat with a ton of life jackets and everybody’s in the water and instead of them Asking, Hey, throw me a life jacket. They’re all trying to push people to the boat, but they’re both drowning.

You know what I mean? Like they’re both struggling when they can just, when the person at the top has all, has the lifeboat and the life jacket and nobody is like getting the life jacket. Yeah. I just love that. I love that perspective. I hear me in that perspective too. I’m like, Oh my God.

But it’s true. Almost every client that I’ve had. Or even just being in masterminds that I’ve been in. I’ve been in masterminds with very wealthy individuals and it’s like the amount of good work that they’re able to do because they have the resources. It’s just insane to me. And it’s uplifting and it like literally lights me up, but then, again, from the bottom up perspective, it is feels just like a lot of victim mentality and scarcity and very much of fighting.

It’s like the crab in the bucket. Almost kind of mentality is what it feels like to me. I’m just so glad you said that perspective. Thank you so much. That was, I think, so many people needed to hear. I have those conversations with people all the time, just even friends, other entrepreneurs of this, like I don’t want to work with, and I hate to use the term low level, and I don’t mean they’re low level individuals, but, low earning individuals.

They’re like, I don’t like working with them. They give me so much stress. And so I’m like, yeah, the best clients I’ve worked with already have a lot of money. They have all of these things in place. And like my job becomes significantly easier as a messaging strategist, because I just come in and everything’s already there.

And I’m like, Hey, we can, shift these couple of things. And yeah, we’ll work on mindset sometimes, but I don’t really, I don’t really do a lot of mindset. I’m sure like you do, but it’s just, it’s a completely different mentality and you’re right. The resources. I love it when you’re able to take money out.

It’s so weird. Cause we’re talking about money, but I’m like, when you’re able to take money off the table or like my favorite phrase, let’s deal with the money stuff. And then we can actually do the important work because once money’s out of the way, like you said, we’re free to like actually do the work.

Yeah. So let’s just get this out of the way. And so whether that is, 10 K 50 K 200 K a million bucks to work with you, whatever, it doesn’t matter. Get it out of the way. It’s done. Cool. All right. Let’s actually get to work. And I’ll even say too, just one last thing. I know we’re going to do it again.

Just one last thing. It’s one of the things I know we’ve been talking a lot about, like the charging, the higher rates. And I think again, I’m going to speak on the lower end here. A lot of what I’ve seen is a lot of the. When you’re talking about the bottom up mentality, it is this more like I just need to charge more.

So like people think I’m more valuable, but then what I see a lot of people do is they pay those really high prices to get in those programs and then they’re incredibly disappointed because the energy is just completely off. And again, that’s a whole different conversation. Oh my gosh, we get it.

Oh yeah, we can talk all about that. But then I’ve also been in. Where I’ve been in masterminds where I’ve paid a lot of money, but the person delivered more than I’m like, oh my God, it was worth a hundred times more than what I paid for it because of their resources and their connections. And I got connected here and there.

I remember being in one mastermind and. He was like, Oh, this is what you do here. You need to talk to so and and threw me. And I like got into all this whirlwind. And then I’m like, Oh my God, I literally have I have the phone number of the guy who created UGG boots in my phone.

And I’m like, this is insane. Oh my God, this is great. But it’s, and it’s not like the clout. It’s just that literally even their mentoring. It’s completely different. It’s such a completely different experience. And it’s not cookie cutter. It’s not one size fits all. It’s like a very much, okay, here’s you, here’s your, you’re an individual.

How can I help you on an individual custom level? And it’s just, yeah, from my experience. Yeah, no, it’s a very good thing because, and like I said, we could have a whole different other conversation. What high level over what’s in that what’s this, whatever. But I think one thing in this.

Kind of will take us home and goes back to knowing yourself and understanding like how you were created and things of that sort. So one thing that is powerful about me is I have a a defined throat chakra. I have undefined, completely undefined. So for me, when it’s like, when we talk about Writing, right?

People think about writing, speaking, all that. That is something that’s very defined for me. That is something that also is very comes very easily. I can complicate it, right? But it comes very easily. What I’ve learned and what I’ve put out there, my mantra for years has been, My, my words make myself and my clients billions of dollars, and that’s gone through several different iterations.

So I used to do copywriting for other individuals. I still work through that with some clients, especially in business development, but just me speaking to somebody. It’s worth billions of dollars. Why? Because it doesn’t take me when you said, you’re in these other masterminds, right?

And they may be more expensive, but it’s a bespoke experience that gets you, it’s not the 12 percent or whatever. It’s a whole different other experience that actually gets you more than what you ever imagined. I can say, I can spend five minutes with the person and completely change their life.

And I’ve had to learn. Oh, I’ve been on this podcast for an hour and I feel like I had shifted my, I’m like, this is worth a billion. But like I, but I’ve had to learn that that’s enough that’s my power. So when you talk about being in these spaces, yeah, I could charge I do charge depends on what it is between, some of my smaller courses are 20 K, some are up to 500, but knowing that the value is there just in the work that I’m doing and my power, which is my voice, my words, my this, my that. And I’ve seen it time and time and time and time again, how powerful it is. And also when we’re talking about different arenas, when you’re like, Hey, I was in this higher level of mastermind.

And like you said, we don’t like high level, low level, whatever you want to call it. Bye. At the end of the day, you were, you had the capacity to receive, he didn’t need, you didn’t need four calls. You didn’t need 12 masterclasses. You didn’t need, now, maybe he puts that out there and maybe they put that out there’s available, but five minutes with that guy or that your mentor changed your life and you pay for it over and over again.

So it’s a very subtle difference on how we show up. In those higher levels as well in regards to who we are, money, both people, not just the mentor. So I know we’ve gone everywhere, but it’s very important to understand that too. So that’s why I say you don’t just charge high prices. we Can all do that.

We can all change it. And you see that online. I’ve seen it so many times where people, we’re not, I don’t want to talk about it. I’m like, we can go on forever. I just don’t even want to go there because I’m like, honey, seriously I don’t want to be a bitch, but seriously. Okay. Okay. You know what?

I’m not going to doubt you. Cause that’s not my job. yoU have the belief it’s going to work, but also. Yeah. I get it. I know, which is why I love you too. Cause I, so I think every single person I pay attention, you have to define throat chakra, obviously, because you guys like are so effortless and speaking.

It’s funny for me, cause mine’s completely open. So basically for me, I’m really good at projecting back, like what people are saying, But then when I have to say my own words, it’s I just feel like I have a word vomit. But which, which is interesting because also this is just a point to why I love you and how you speak and all of your content because and just your aesthetic and like who you are.

Because a lot of the times we talked about this where we jumped on, people think ultra high net worth, I said it, individuals, they think very professional and poised. And I’m like. But here you are, you aren’t using you aren’t speaking so eloquently and words I can’t understand and your energy is so fun and like fiery and sassy and I just love it.

And it’s like such an inspiration to me because yes, like I, I feel this very much too, and so it’s Oh my God, here you can see this person. She’s just 100 percent being who she is. She is speaking how she wants to speak. And I just love it. And so it just gives me inspiration to just.

To know yeah, like you don’t have to be this type of person or like this idea that everyone has to be able to work with these people. And honestly, that is how I got in that mastermind is because I was in a different mastermind and the person was like, I need to introduce you to my friend.

And because like he needs to be on your podcast. And then he came to my podcast and then I was like, I have to work with you. I have to work with you. And I got into that mastermind. And it was amazing. I remember like getting in there and I was obviously, I didn’t, I wasn’t like the little fish in a big pond, but I made the least amount of money than anyone in that mastermind.

That’s okay. But it was just totally fine. I’m like, look, I’m in this room. I actually love being the least in the room because I have the most. Me too. Oh, I’m still, I’m like. I love it. I’m like, if I’m in the highest in the room, I’m in the wrong room. Get me out of this room. I want to. Wrong room.

Gotta go. It is also interesting too, because we, again. Oh my God, we’re going to keep going, but interesting because the higher level individuals too, are the ones that I feel really do want to raise you up the most, like I, with, again, with their resources I have been more supported and never judged.

I could be like, guys, I, I could literally go to the mastermind and be like, I made zero dollars this month. They’re like, cool, great, whatever, what are we going to do about it? Let’s make a plan, come on, what are we going to do? And who can I connect you with? And it’s whoa, this is amazing!

And there’s no judgment, there’s no nothing, right? Which is so amazing. And again, their resources, and just who they are as people. Yeah. He actually told me, he said, it’s really lonely at the top. Not because people make so much money at the top. It’s because there are so many people who haven’t gotten there.

So why would we not want to bring people up with us, like, why would we not want more people to be at the top? He’s like, when you’re at the top, it’s great to be at the top. Because again, you can help more people. You can, do so many things. And he’s like, why would we not want more people up here?

Yeah, that’s what I say. I say all the time. I’m like, you know what, there’s plenty of room at the top and I’ve got the dom chilled for you when you’re ready to be here. But other than that but I can’t do it for you. You have to want to do that. And I think. It’s very, the, there’s so many stereotypes and we talked about some of them today, like thought processes about who, what, when, where, how you have to be, what’s this, what’s that in order to, work with this level or be at this level or whatever else.

And I’m like, you know what, if I’m anything, I’m just the antithesis of what most people would say. would think would have to be to be able to support and work with higher net worth individuals, or high net worth and ultra high net worth individuals. I don’t really know. I’m just like, I’m just me.

And I just do my thing. And that six is, six line, we just, that’s what we do. And most people would assume, it’s funny because a lot of people do assume that of course you do, we’ll look at you, of course this, and of course that, and I’m like, okay thank you. But also.

Understanding that very much like you said, if you go in that world, I’m talking to people and working with individuals, and they’re close connections who are managing, 500 million, like you. Yeah. Assets under management, like bare minimum, we’re talking about big money rooms, big money individuals.

This is not like just millions of dollars. And there’s me coming in, my bright pink suit, cause that’s my, I’m like, listen, here we go. Or purple or whatever else. I’m just being, I’m just being me and it gives people, not that they need it, but especially for my clients, what I’ve found is it like, just gives them permission to just be human.

And that’s the thing, like ultra high net worth or. Hi, hyper form or anything else. I think the thing that we have to realize is that we fight so often and we fight so hard to rid ourselves of the human experience. But that’s just the very thing that connects us. And that’s the very thing of who we are.

And so when people come to me, I’m like, I humanize superhuman individuals because it’s true. You can be human with me. It’s okay. We can talk about yachts and we could talk about feelings. Okay, we could talk about yeah. All of those things. And another thing fazes me because it’s a human experience.

That’s what we’re going through. So when you see yourself, and this is, coming into money as well, when we think about people who want to make more money or who want to support people with more money, when you realize that you are human, just like them, it equals the, evens out the playing field a little bit.

And it allows you to be like, actually, I am worthy of this. Actually I am worth this. Actually, it’s just money. It’s just this, it’s just if you go to your Stripe account or whatever else, and there’s a hundred grand in there or whatever, and you want it instantly into your bank account, which it’s not, and you can press send, and three seconds later it’s there, and it’s.

You’re like, how is that? Like what? Numbers. That’s it. That’s what, it’s it. And if you’re going to let numbers differentiate you from people or from having the life that you want or doing the things that you want, then that’s on you, honey. It doesn’t have to though. I think that’s a perfect note to end on.

Money is just numbers. Love it. Absolutely love it. Shayla, thank you. This is I’m like so lit up right now. My generator is oh my god, I’m so happy right now. This was such a good conversation. Thank you so much for having it with me today and for coming on and sharing. I just, oh, again, I just love you so much and I love watching all your stuff and everybody go follow her now.

I will drop your links for everyone to go and follow you. And yeah, just thank you so much for your wisdom. Thank you so much for having me on. This was so much fun. We didn’t talk about sharts, but no, we didn’t talk about shards, but hey, we talked about taking your money mindset from the toilet to the bank.

Okay. That’s what we talked about today. Okay. We talked about that. So there was some farts in there, but yeah, I love it so much. Can you just tell people how they can connect with you other than social media? I know that you talked about, okay. The offer that you have for people who are looking to work with ultra high net worth individuals.

Can you share some details? Yeah, so the best way to get a hold of me, most likely just my website is www. bshaylalaclaire. com, which is, I’ll be honest, it’s going through Reformation refit right now. So just be patient with us. We’re working on some things, but you can always like subscribe to my email or you could get you can send a message to me.

No problem. Social media is fine too. You’ll get my assistant, but they’ll get it to me as well. Social media is more so where you’ll see me offer the business development side of things. So that is if you’re wanting to. support or work with or expand the luxury side of your business and work with high net worth, ultra high net worth individuals, then I have a mastermind, a mini mastermind for that.

I also have one on one money. I call them all psychology sessions to support individuals who just need A catalyst in that and understanding like, where, getting to the core of where their money challenges are, and it’s for the people, my favorite phrase is for the people who’ve taken all the money courses and still nothing has happened.

Then you’re like, raising your hand, like how many of us have taken million money courses and they all basically say the same thing, but like no tangible. No, then you work with me. One to three sessions. We’ll get you, we’ll get you together. So those are the, yeah, those are the things that you can work with me on business development side, or either just private wealth psychology side.

You can do that as well. If you’re a high net worth, ultra high net worth individual who wants support on the non financial challenges of wealth success, then my website, you can apply and someone will get back to you within 24 hours, 24 business hours. Those are all the places. Oh, okay. I’ll make sure to put all the links below.

Okay. Thank you so much and we’ll catch you guys on the next episode.